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PostSubject: the church of England stands firm   Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:53 pm

the report is out and for the gay community not looking good. they can of course get married anywhere in the Kingdom but NOT in a church of England. and the argument from the church view point is simple - scripture which we uphold does not condone or support gay marriage?

They have pointed out that all gay peoples are welcome to worship in the church of course!
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:58 am

And to pop something in the donation box! I think it is very unwise of them to criticise God's quality Control failures!

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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:44 am

There is a collection box in the entrance of our local church labelled "For the Sick and Needy"

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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:03 am

All of this is a load of rubbish.

The church of England and the church of Rome would collapse if all the gay clergy and various hangers-on left their "calling".

I have known two CofE clergy since my student days. Both of them became bishops. Both came out to their friends as gay and both have lived with another man for very many years.
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:19 am

That's telling 'em pops. Good on yer mate (they will understand that phrase)...

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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:00 pm

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All of this is a load of rubbish.

The church of England and the church of Rome would collapse if all the gay clergy and various hangers-on left their "calling".

I have known two CofE clergy since my student days. Both of them became bishops. Both came out to their friends as gay and both have lived with another man for very many years.


have you got any recent stats on this - at a guess what percentage of gay clergy do you think there are in UK?
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:01 pm

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All of this is a load of rubbish.

The church of England and the church of Rome would collapse if all the gay clergy and various hangers-on left their "calling".

I have known two CofE clergy since my student days. Both of them became bishops. Both came out to their friends as gay and both have lived with another man for very many years.

have you got any recent stats on this - what percentage of the clergy do you think are gay in fact?
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:23 pm

I don't have any figures it's the information passed to me by the two bishops I know.
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:39 pm

all conjecture then? - my personal conjecture is that the percentage of gay clergy is very small this was told to me by two priests in USA!
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:42 pm

Assuming your two priests, davo were not gay, the truth of the matter probably lies half way between the two opinions.
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:35 pm

Do these two priests Confess to each other?

"Forgive me Doris I have not sinned"
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PostSubject: Re: the church of England stands firm   Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:57 pm

The gay ones strive to become Bishops because they like the big hats, gold trimmings and the long frocks. 

This skews the statistics of what percentage of the clergy are gay.

They do say 10% of the population are gay - we have more than 10 members - so who is the one?

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