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PostSubject: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:38 pm

Do you think that Australian people should pass judgment on the general dislike of most U K citizens to women walking our streets heavily disguised in face masks,when their indigenous people who have been there for millions of years are treated as second class or even third class citizens?

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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:59 pm

To be perfectly honest andsome I don't see the connection, however....
The Abbos have been treated abysmally by the Britsh settlers there and it's a problem that does need resolving.
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:07 pm

malcolm wrote:
To be perfectly honest andsome I don't see the connection, however....
The Abbos have been treated abysmally by the Britsh settlers there and it's a problem that does need resolving.

I was actually referring to posts in another topic,where in my opinion people who believe that U K citizens should have the rights to walk in our streets without feeling threatened by the sight of people in masks or veils,where the cannot be truly identified as women or men, and could potentially pose a threat,as they are unidentifiable,were insulted

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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:19 pm

I think most, if not all of us agree with you....but that has nothing to do with this topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:51 pm

You rang .... drum Here I am.
What would you like me to do?
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:18 pm

yes hat Explain about mixing topics in order to labour a point, and about being nice and tolerant of each other
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:29 pm

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yes hat Explain about mixing topics in order to labour a point, and about being nice and tolerant of each other


I tried that in the other thread because it was obvious where it was going and you reminded me that "This is a forum Alan, a place where people can air their views..... "

If you leave an open door people will walk though it.

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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:48 pm

You can state your opinion and also display tolerance Alan, it's what you do with your wife and family....you remember that don't you?
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:43 pm

On topic: Freedom
Australia and it's indigenous Aboriginal population.

I'm no expert so will doubtless be shot down or called a nerd but ..

Australia's longest strike was by Aboriginal workers which lasted from 1946 to 1949.
In short they were demanding a minimum wage instead of been paid in food and goods.
A commission had been undertaken in 1944 .. where it reported that ..
"There is an advantage in native labour ... they are not sufficiently advanced to appreciate white conditions ... I [therefore] doubt whether any monetary increases will help them much."

Up until as late as 1968 it seems many weren't even allowed to leave the sheep stations where they worked.
I'd call that more than exploiting Aborigines ... I'd call it 20th Century slavery.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/pilbara-australias-longest-strike

More recently, as late as November 2016.

Indigenous Australians were threatening to close Uluru because it is leased by them to the Federal Government and they only receive 7% of the royalties from tourism to Ayers Rock Resort (the gateway to Uluru).
As one Aboriginal spokesman explained ..
On one side of the rock they are living in poverty ... whilst on the other commercial tourism is making millions and exploiting a living culture that is dying.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/oceania/australia/northern-territory/articles/why-are-indigenous-people-threatening-to-close-uluru/

It seems Australia have a long way to go before they can claim they are the land of the free or one of the most successful multicultural countries on the planet.
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:48 pm

I'd better not get involved in this, on Waitangi Day and after we beat Australia in the One Day cricket series to take the Chappel Hadlee Trophy.
I'll leave it to Davo!  yes

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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:13 pm

Actually .. I shouldn't get involved either.
I'm supposed to be loftily above getting involved in discussion. Wouldn't want to provoke anyone.

I was going to go in after and edit it but thought ... drum allow me one shot across the bows.
I'll sit quietly now and wait to do me normal chores as forum housekeeper and shuffling threads around.
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PostSubject: Re: Freedom in Australia    Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:27 pm

"Freedom in Australia" - everyone has freedom in OZ - free to vote; free to buy property; free education; free to seek employment ; free to travel ; free to seek a political life etc etc  in fact some people have 'special' free rights to live on identified traditional lands and freedom to hunt on land and sea where non-Indigenous peoples do not have that right and can be charged with trespassing and killing protected species.

I mix professionally and socially with Indigeous politicans, doctors, teachers, psychologists, social workers, police officers, bank workers, nurses, sports persons and priests and so the list goes on. Yes Australia the land of the free.
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