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PostSubject: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 3:15 am

Sadness and condolences for this catastrophe but I started puzzling. One of the biggest arenas in Europe ; sell out crowd of young people - what was happening to the arena security routinely and was there any police presence before and during the event. after all this is a copycat of the Paris attack and the rock concert there but this on a much larger scale.

it's all well and good swinging into  action after the event but what was happening before it??
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 8:00 am

Completely different to the Paris attack, this was a suicide bomber apparently, no firearms involved.
 It happened at the end of the concert, just as parents were arriving to pick up their teenagers. There would be an awful lot of coming and going happening, very difficult for security to pick this up.
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 8:10 am

How very sad a happy event spoiled by terrorism. These were mostly teenage fans. It's incomprehensible.
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 8:42 am

Top of our news this evening! So sad that people can even consider doing this kind of thing. To what purpose? On a lesser scale, you can understand why someone steals something . They want it! But killing people including yourself is mental derangement.

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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 10:29 am

I think the security services are very pro-active here. Good enough to catch many planned attempts at bombing or killing. We hear on the News about some of them but there are probably also others that we don't hear anything about.

I expect people going into last night's concert were vetted and no doubt quite a bit of vigilance took place while people were inside and enjoying it. Perhaps this bomber noticed that security relaxed somewhat once an event was over because, ordinarily, it might be thought the danger point was past. If this is a possible scenario, I don't think the same assumption will be made again.
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 12:56 pm

My thoughts and condolences are with all those concerned 
A very sad and tragic end to an evening
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 4:42 pm

It happened in the foyer,so he possibly was not vetted

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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 5:33 pm

reminds me of closing the barn door after the horse has bolted - let''s  watch everyone coming in and throw them to the dogs going out. I thought security should be 24-24 not give and take?
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Think you are being very unfair there.
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 6:48 pm

fairness doesn't mean much to young people dying - I think their families might have wanted better security going out as coming in??
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 7:03 pm

It's almost impossible to forestall a determined bomber intent on causing an atrocity because only (s)he knows for sure when and where the attack will take place. Other places in the World have found much the same thing. Sometimes, despite all the intelligence gathered and precautions taken, some attacks are tragically likely to get through. So who's fault is that? The security services? I'd say it isn't. Let's put the blame where it should lie ...fairly and squarely on the bomber. 
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PostSubject: Re: Manchester Arena attack   Tue May 23, 2017 7:17 pm

bombers never accept blame surely??
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