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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:08 am

Well, I am most disappoint at your news.
I suppose the delay between the onset of the "problem" and the application of the "treatment" may have been the reason for the sad news.

I suggest that you get a little tin with a sealing lid, and keep your  homeopathic remedys therein, ready for next time.They have a reasonable shelf life. Not everlasting but certainly a year or two in my experience.

p,s. The ointment is not really true homeopothy. It is a modern "bandwagon" job. If you had put it in you mouth, and sucked it, it may have been a bit nearer the mark!!!
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:16 am

I have had a very sore knee for just about as long as you Dave. I take two Ibuprofen tabs every four hours, it seems to work.
The worst is during the night whilst abed, the pain sometimes spreads to my calf and I have to get up to ease it with a walk around and a mug of coffee.
Homeopathy is a load of crap for the gullible amongst us.
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:40 am

well there have been several confounding variables in the whole equation which I will report on eventually but will finish the pilutes and then report back - but I do realize that there has been serious tissue damage around the knee joint if not within it and this needs time to heal - 2- 3 mths was the medics opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:12 pm

"Homeopathy is a load of crap for the gullible amongst us."


What was it that did not work for you Malcolm?
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:02 pm

What did not work for me was the total lack of science involved with the remedies....very similar to the 'acupuncture' nonsense that sticking needles in your skin will provide a cure for your ills.
Science and medical knowledge brought about through research is what I believe in.
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:40 pm

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What did not work for me was the total lack of science involved with the remedies....very similar to the 'acupuncture' nonsense that sticking needles in your skin will provide a cure for your ills.
Science and medical knowledge brought about through research is what I believe in.

Well I am a scientist, and studied at what is now Bradford University way back in the immediate post war years. I have worked in laboratories for the most of  my working life and was Quality Assurance and Technical Services Manager for a large international company for over 20 years before retiring.

In my early 20s I had a stomach problem which, after much visiting doctors and hospitals,  was diagnosed as an ulcer and I was put on the waiting list and given a very alkaline medicinal concoctment.

In a large house, near my fathers house, was, according to a bronze plaque on his gate, a homeopathic practitioner. I went to see him and see what homeopathy could do for me.

I will not go into every little detail. I shall simply say that after half a dozen weekly visits to his lair I could once again eat everything that was put before me without any discomfort. The result of this encounter lead to the building up of a friendship that lasted until, after another 40 years, he failed to find a remedy to cure his own  death (he died at 86).

I have since only visited doctors for things that require surgery. When my children were ill or injured they too partook of homeopathic nonsense  and also benefited from it.

During the years of our weekly social visiting my parents and him and his wife, I learned much from a man who was too down to earth to fool himself and too honest to pull the wool over any eyes (even though there has always been a lot of wool in Bradford).
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:18 pm

I am a great believer in the 'whatever works for you ' principle.
Some folks believe anything and everything some visit Lourdes seeking cures for terminal illnesses.
It is relatively new finding that the real culprit of 'stomach' or duodenal ulceration is a Gram-neg bacterial infection 'Helicobacter Pylori' now completely curable with targeted anti-biotic treatment.
No amount of homeopathic treatments have ever been found to kill off gram neg bacteria as I am sure you will agree.
My father died in hospital following surgery for duodenal ulceration, after contracting peritonitis.


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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:31 pm

Ahhhh...smileyes
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:37 pm

No amount of science has yet found out how Homeopathy works, although there have been some suggestions which have been slightly plausible.

The reason why it works is, in my mind, less important that the fact that in very many cases it does work. Granted the remedy for a certain dis ease for Jim may be totally unsuited to Fred, which is why most cases need individual analysis.
Having said that, there are quite a few common remedies which are less fussy about who they cure.  One of these is an out of the ordinary mixture of three remedies "Aconite/Gelsemium/Eupatorium". This is a master piece when it comes to colds and flu.
Just try it.
My old friend Ralph had a little saying which said it all "You can not describe the taste of a pear".

I find it very true and applicable to many situations.
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:08 pm

Homeopathy works on those who are gullible enough to use it and too scared to tell everyone that they were foolish enough to be taken in by the charlatans who advocate it's use....IMO !
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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:43 pm

I am truly agnostic about the efficacy of medicines of all sorts. I believe that if a remedy works for you - that's fair enough.

I would not accuse people of gullibility and foolishness because they have experienced the benefit of something that I have not tried myself. I too find it hard to understand how a homeopathic remedy works, but I have a friend with a nut allergy and the most minute exposure to nuts causes such a violent reaction she finishes up in hospital knocking on death's door. This shows how sensitive the human body can be to the merest trace of a compound.  I know it seems daft - but I am allergic to cucumber which is 99.9% water. If a sandwich or a plate of salad has had cucumber on it - even if I remove the cucumber  - I cannot eat it without it causing severe nausea.

I therefore accept that minute traces of something can effect the body but the extreme dilution of Homeopathic remedies to me is an enigma. For me the jury is out and I await a verdict..

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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:24 pm

I am a great believer in the 'whatever works for you ' principle.

Homeopathy works on those who are gullible enough to use it and too scared to tell everyone that they were foolish enough to be taken in by the charlatans who advocate it's use....IMO wrote:


surely these two statements from the same author could be said to be contradictions in terms??


however moving on moving on I came across this article recently whilst pursuing my own studies of lifes experiences:


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PostSubject: Re: first casualty of the year   Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:29 pm

well the results so far and future plans? - have taken two pks of arnika so far and IMO are not cheap - at one point I thought they were having good effect but this did not last However there are many confounding factors - one I am taking multiple and varying other tabs that may interact in non- efficacious ways and which included osteopanadol - and two recently more in desperation I started taking simple paracetamol which has seemed to ease the pain more effectively - however as stated previously the removal of all pain is not necessarily a useful technique as there is of course still underlying tissue damage that continues to repair itself.

I think on reflection it may be inappropriate to mix the two methods of treatment ie homeopathy and conventional medicine as they do seem to be juxtaposed.

however many thanks for all suggestions - well at least those of a more serious nature!

I am now walking unaided but with a slight limp - the discomfort is easing and as long as I do not rotate my knee joint all is well hat
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