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PostSubject: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:57 am

this was the education I received and it benefited me so why not again??


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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:03 am

Hard to put the discipline back into schools when it has been missing for so long. The lack of it perhaps goes back a couple of generations too, so even the parents won't understand or condone the principal's actions.
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:45 am

The lack of school discipline has had far-reaching unforeseen consequences, reflected in the current prison population etc......don't get me started angry
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:24 pm

well when I was a youngster 'discipline' started in the home not the school!! groan
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:34 pm

Yes indeed it did and it was continued through the school years into adulthood
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:45 pm

so where did it all go wrong???
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:05 pm

davo wrote:
so where did it all go wrong???

When Europe started laying laws down I reckon. Everyone saw them as progressive but not all the laws governing children's upbringing were. They might have suited the children of other counties but not ours. Our teachers used a ruler, a plimsoll a cane or just their hands to discipline us at school. We were no angels but just accepted we'd get a bit of physical discipline if we went over the mark and that was that.

It was backed up by our parents too. Go home with a grumble that we's had a slap and the parents would probably say we shouldn't have done whatever it was. If schools were to try that now, I think we all know what would happen.


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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:58 pm

surely we can't keep blaming europe for everything?? hat
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:49 am

davo wrote:
surely we can't keep blaming europe for everything?? hat
Unfortunately lots of people did blame the EU for problems that were not of their making.
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:11 am

You're probably right but since the question was asked, my perception of when the decline in discipline seemed to start is that it was around that time.

Edit: What would be your own answers as regards when it was and what caused it?
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:20 am

however I would be the first to defend the other side of the story - the school environment in this day and age has changed as well as the laws of the lands , and now teachers have to be aware of more rights of their students.


dress and body code?

this school is about to be sued and may have to pay out a large sum of money for careless decisions by its staff??
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PostSubject: Re: what ya think? everyone gone asleep again?   Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:50 am

I have no idea what dress codes would normally be expected in U.S.A schools. What we think, as outsiders, probably depends on the views we'd have of dress code in our own schools.

I think school uniforms are good. If they'd had a school uniform like most of the schools here, it would have levelled the dress code and the opportunity for suing wouldn't have arisen.
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